Scammer Maznitsyna Natalia

Natalia
Maznitsyna
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Ust-Kamenogorsk Kazakhstan

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I am a single, divorced man of 64 with 4 children, and I should know better.

My name is Michael Hollands

I live in Auckland New Zealand. After separating from my partner in 2003, I started using the internet to look for a partner.



I looked a lot at Russian women, because they seem to be just that extra dimension more beautiful, and kept that beauty for much later in life. They also seem to be more determined to be a very good wife and mother… and offer to love their man for all time. They also profess to hold very strong Christian beliefs, and honesty and their faithfulness seem to be paramount.

I was also aware that there were 13 million more women than men in Russia, and I read many stories in profiles suggesting that Russian men did not make good husbands for several reasons.

I quickly became aware of the activities of scammers, and also of the existence of the “Black List”. I corresponded with many scammers, and was intrigued to see their ‘modus operandi’, and their occasional ‘trip ups’. I also found another guy in the UK who had corresponded with the same women that I had communicated with. It was amusing to compare the letters from these women, especially when the letters to each of us was identical but with changed names. Sometimes these women would overlook to change a name in the body text, and it was amusing to find a ‘Dave’, for example, in my letters addressed to me as ‘Michael’

Then I discovered Natalia in Kazakhstan. This lady has turned out to be so masterful that with all my wisdom, and experience at writing to Russian women, I was still taken in.

We have corresponded for about 20 months… much of that time on msn messenger, where she led me on to this form of communication, and also the use of a webcam.

Therefore we did seem to overcome the distance, and non physical nature of the internet, and many times we spent hours together on the msn site. I was completely captivated by her, and it seemed that she was completely in love with me. We even argued! The arguments were sometimes quite passionate, and one argument lasted for five and a half hours! Much of that was without webcam, and when Natalia finally came on camera to show me her face, her eyes were swollen, tears were running down her face, and her mouth was open wide in a scream of anguish.

I am aware that Ust Kamenogorsk is an unhealthy place to live, and that there is a Uranium factory within the city. Natalia had to leap up and close the windows once, when I was talking to her, following a radio warning not to go outside.

Natalia, started asking me for money. Her passport was allegedly taken from her for not paying her internet bills at the cyber café.

She told me she needed her passport to get a new job, because her boss was sexually harassing her.

Then her son was involved in a school chemistry lesson accident, and he had to go to hospital. Natalia told me that 14 children had died. He survived, but broke his arm in hospital.

Natalia asked me to pay to help her with living expenses. Then she asked me to buy her a cell phone and a computer for her new job. I offered to send her a free cell phone from by my son who worked in the industry at the time. She flew into a rage and told me that she had paid $100 to hold the new phone for her for one day and it was not recoverable. So I paid.

Then her daughter caught Meningitis, and ‘nearly died’.

We seemed to have a very caring relationship outside these demands for money, which always had to be sent “Western Union” within 24 hours. I met her kids online, and her friends and her mother. I became very involved, and I believed that I was very much part of her life… and that she was a part of mine.

Then once I was not able to send the money within 24 hours, and things dissolved into a ‘shouting’ match… online. I was made to feel very bad about it…and finally she stopped all communication with me, being ‘deeply offended’ at my ‘treatment' of her.

She told me that another Michael, from the USA had proposed to her, and that she was going to marry him 3 months later. We ‘separated’ for a period of about 3 months, and then she came back to me as ‘a friend’.

I was sent pictures of her with ‘Michael’ from the USA. Then I learned that she did not marry him, and after a month, he had returned to the USA.

So for a while we communicated as friends. Then she told me that she had just learned that she had cancer of the stomach, and that it was ‘fatal’.

Of course I was devastated, and started to send more money for treatment. I sent her medicine as well which she showed me ‘on cam’ when she received it.

She seemed to get better, and we “fell in love” again.

It was my positive support, and love, (and money) that kept her alive, she said. She had 2 spells in hospital in Almati, and her friends would contact me and plead with me to send her money urgently. I also ended up sending money to her friend at the same time, as she had had difficulty keeping up the support to Natalia and visiting Natalia in Almati.

This is already a long story, but it has served a purpose if this story has exposed a VERY competent liar, and a VERY gullible fool. But of course I loved her desperately, and whatever the cost, I wanted to continue to keep in contact. It was finally when I added up the lies that I had caught her out on, and simple mistakes that she had made, that I saw what was happening clearly.

Of course I had often suspected, but never wanted to believe it!. There was for example that she was smoking when she was online about six months ago, although admitting that her doctor had told her she couldn’t smoke.

She told me that she had just started smoking, but I asked her friend, and her friend told me that she had been smoking since she was in her early twenties, she is now 36.

It was an elementary slip up, and she told me she was giving up shortly. Of course, she only needed to concoct an argument between us, and out would come the cigarettes again.

I have to say that this lady is a genius with the use of the power of GUILT. And I suspect that the very best scammers use guilt to the level of an art form as Natalia does.

Natalia, will also stoop to hold her children up as bearing the suffering, whenever things did not go the way Natalia wanted it. This was her way as well - of using guilt to get her way. I think this form of coersion is despicable. And she is always using God as a judge of all other's, except her own behaviour

I have spoken to Natalia today, and she wants me to send more money urgently. She has no idea at all that I am doing this, and this is good, because she is totally unsuspecting, and would never believe that I could report her. Therefore it is vital that Natalia is caught and put out of action because this sort of treatment of another human being is totally unjustified by any standards, and she is only putting her own people, and her country, to shame.

To date I have sent US $5,260, which is NZ $8,635.34 New Zealand dollars, so I guess... by reading others experiences here, I am one of the bigger victims, and I feel particularly stupid about it.

I am not wealthy, in fact I believe that I have a lot less money than Natalia herself has.

In all pictures I have seen of her apartment, her furniture, equipment and the clothes that she wears, everything looks very expensive indeed.

She owns her apartment, and also a "holiday residence", and has enough property to consider setting up an Ostridge farm.

I suspect that much of her money was gained by scamming men.



Michael Hollands. 21st November 2005 P.O.box 51818, Pakuranga, Auckland, New Zealand.

silverstore@ihug.co.nz Code name 003.5



Payments made to Natalia.




05.11.04 NZ$197.90 US$120 W1183040 67285

06.30.04 NZ$544.30 US$300 W1183010 29522

02.28.05 NZ$103.26 US$50 W1157020 13461

03.14.05 NZ$396.30 US$250 W1157050 21279

03.31.05 NZ$490.86 US$300 S1157000 30658

03.31.05 NZ$245.43 US$150 S1157050 30785

04.11.05 NZ$336.07 US$200 S1303000 32456

04.22.05 NZ$479.21 US$300 W8119010 28719

04.26.05 NZ$197.93 US$120 W1157020 44148

05.10.05 NZ$411.69 US$250 S8119000 18792

05.17.05 NZ$339.86 US$200 W1157050 56309

06.14.05 NZ$407.34 US$250 W1157010 1532

06.22.05 NZ$936.34 US$600 W1157050 5857

07.12.05 NZ$985.25 US$600 W1183010 65687

07.22.05 NZ$417.81 US$250 W1183050 2618

09.16.05 NZ$950.14 US$600 W1183050 42310

09.28.05 NZ$420.79 US$250 W1073050 53584

10.07.05 NZ$571.13 US$350 S1189000 19398

10.25.05 NZ$203.73 US$120 W8119010 24594

_________ _______

NZ$8,635.34 US$5,260.00



I have all these Western Union documents.





Messages from Natalia.



05.01.05
My lovely friend!!! I miss you very much!!! If you only knew... As I do not have not enough you now!!! I constantly ask the god about the help for you and all your family!!! You the fine person and the best friend... Which to me was sent by the GOD!!! My hope to see you soon gives me many forces and confidence in a victory!!! Please to take care!!! Thanks for your big care of me.... It so is pleasant for me and I cannot think of you without tear.... You always in my ideas and always in my heart!!!
p.s. (I am glad... That you read the Kama Sutra) and I am very glad... That you have not opened there that that new to yourselves.... hehehe.... I love you very much!!!! With the big hope and the best wishes for you my best in this world the person!!!!!! Natalia



08.25.05

Good morning my lovely friend!!! I do not want to awake you and I go to sleep as... I shall speak свами in the morning.... I thought of you all the day long.... Knitted a jumper and all my ideas were with you.... I miss you very much my angel!!! Have good to put and much positive emotion!!! It is a lot of sun and the blue sky above your head!!! Be the good boy and not strongly be fond of lady... To take care.... I shall soon with you!!!
Your true friend! Love!!! Natalia





06.05.05

My lovely Michael!!! I love you very gently and I am afraid to damage(injure) it.... And our last conversation is not given me with good emotion... We speak about much and there is nothing... I am really very tired from the Internet and my illness have exhausted me strongly!
I want to be happy with you always.... We much have gone through here still more many difficulties.... Understand me.... It is very difficult for me....
I am very much upset now from for your illness... Please to take care and do not sit at a computer!!! To protect your eyes!!! I shall wait all the day long.... What to speak with you!!! I have hope... That soon we at last shall together my lovely friend!!! Have good day and please take care rest!!!
Your love! Natalia





06.10.05

My lovely Michael!!! I am very glad to read your letters today... The belief and love there is so much!!!
My lovely... All problems will pass by us and we necessarily meet soon!!!
I constantly think of you and I dream about our future life really much...
Thanks about your care is relative my treatment!!! It is very touching for me.... I shall try to not bring you and my health will be better soon... I know it... I am sure... That the God will not allow me to leave(abandon) you during this life.... We should be together for ever!!!
It is very a pity... That you now not in msn.... I very much wanted to speak with you... We speak later today at night... Now I should go in hospital and take some consultation...
About the big love to you! Natalia






06.12.05
My lovely friend!!! Thanks for your letters and so much good words to me!!! I love you very much and very much I miss you here!!!
My health is very bad these days and I move on an apartment and other time in bed not much... Excuse me... But I cannot be today with you... Very big weariness and absolutely is not present forces...
I shall try to come back faster to you...
Have good day and be the good boy!!! I love you all heart and is constant you in my ideas!!! I constantly ask the God about the help to you!!! We should be strong!!!
Thanks for your fine photo.... I like to see it!!!
The big love and tenderness to you!!! Natalia





06.13.05

My lovely friend!!! Thanks for your letter!!! I so like to read your letter in the morning!!!
Yes my lovely we so far apart.... But we children the God and it(he) does(makes) care of us and if it is the plan the God... To be to us together... That we necessarily shall together and we do not leave once more!!!
I understand you very much and I feel you very well!!! I understand... That you very much experience for me and you really love me and allow me the big hope for my life!!! I am very happy to have you my lovely friend!!! I always thank the God for it!!! I shall always love you my lovely and my unique!!! You very much dier the friend for me!!!
I not so well today and several minutes ago visited me Irina... She(it) is very happy from her(it) kiwi as... But I saw excitement in its(her) eyes... Because before them as many problems for a meeting.... I understand all... And I cannot the help for it(her) as that... It is a life and she(it) and Andrev their love and the God as should trust...
Now I want to speak not much with you... If you at home now... If is not present... That I shall be here later today!!!
The big love to you my lovely!!! Your Natalia







06.15.05

My lovely friend!!! I miss you very much!!!
I read your letter some times!!! The love and care there is so much.... You not можите to imagine... As these words the help for me now.... I want to live... I want to be happy with you!!!!!!!!! My lovely... My loved kiwi!!!
I do not want to disturb your dream now... You had difficult day and I go to sleep as... We speak with you in the morning!!!!
I ask the God now... What you were well always and I ask the God about happiness for us and our eternal love!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always your small Natalia!!! Which has very big love in its heart!!!! Many times I kiss you.... It is interesting to see you sleepy in a bed.... hehehehe





07.01.05

My lovely friend I need to continue urgently treatment and for that that I could buy a medicine from Novosibirsk to me are necessary money now.... It always painfully to ask you about about the help and I very much suffer it... But I do not have other output(exit) now... My sister can send me 400 dollars now... Because she does not work and is on physical inability as and every month she sends me of money for treatment... But it to me does not suffice me 600 dollars more and then I can buy a medicine quickly are necessary and to continue treatment.
My lovely angel you can the help for me now?
The big love and hope!!!
Natalia





10.05.05

My love! I am very glad to know, that you have got home!!! I love you very much and you always in my heart and everywhere... Where I go I constantly I think of you my angel!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael, I still very weak... And my doctor has informed me.... That now I shall demand treatment in 6-8 months!!! I should receive only vitamins now and observe a diet.
I saw today my analysis and it really better than before!!! I am very glad to this and you my angel give me the big help and I feel your care and love constantly!
I have your hair with me always... And I like to touch your hair... It is given me with the big communication{connection} with you!!!! I am very happy today!
Thank for money! Christina has already received it and has sent me on my account in Almaty.... I shall receive it soon.
Michael, excuse, I do not have not enough this money and I need 350 dollars more, I understand my lovely, that it is very difficult to receive this money for me... But I in difficult position now...
I send you a copy of the letter from your friend Tobias once again and I hope you will receive it now...
I should will come back in hospital now my lovely.... My doctor demands me for consultation.
I love you very much!!!!
To take care!
God bless you!!!!!!!
Love for ever!!!
Natalia





10.07.05

My love!!!
I so am glad to receive your letters... It is given really to me with many energy and I feel you beside!!!
I can have my happiness only with you and it on always!!!!!!!!!!!
I miss you very much and constantly I think of you and I speak with you... Looking on your photo and all workers hospital send the regards to you and the best wishes!
My doctor has told to me... That the love is of great importance for me and it is the help for me from you and from the God and I know it!!!!!!!!!!
My unique Michael!!! I love you very much!!!!!!!!
My treatment comes to an end tomorrow.... And if you could send me money tomorrow... That I shall better leave hospital... What to not pay superfluous money... Please try to send me it tomorrow... Otherwise... I should payment still superfluous 80 dollars for the days off..
I can remain before arrival Alesya at its friend Elena and wait a meeting with Richard... What to transfer a parcel{sending} for you my love and then I go home at once... Very much I miss without children and mum....
I love you very much!!!!!!!! You know it???
My angel..... I dream about a meeting with you soon....
To take care! God bless you!
Love for ever!!!!!!!!!
Your Natalia







10.23.05

Thank for your care!!!
You can send me 500 dollars on the ticket to Dubai???
I shall be very grateful to you for your help!!!







11.03.05
Michael.... I do not understand you... Why you malicious??? Because I wish to be with you??? Because I examine{consider} you seriously... Therefore you malicious???
I understand... You have no money.... What for you promised me this travel to New Zealand??? For what I spent many money.... What to call in Moscow???
I only wished to be faster with you and I was very happy all these days.... Because I knew... That absolutely soon I shall with you....
And you have very much changed to me and it happened after your meeting with Richerd.... I has written to it{him} the letter today and his{its} intrigue for his{its} life asked to leave all!!! Probably it{he} has overlooked.... How laughed at you??? And now it{he} searches for your understanding??? It is nonsense..... And you are similar Richerd now my friend..... You offend me and humiliate me and I cannot understand.... That I have made not correctly..... That that I dream to be with you in real life?
You probably do not understand all benefit my trip to Moscow???
I understand your reaction to all.... It is your cowardice.... You are not ready to change in your life and I once again ask you.... To remain fair with me!
I am very grateful to you for your help about my illness and now you kill me.... Your behaviour is awful to me..... You cannot understand my love.... How strongly you gave me a trauma now??????????????
You the coward...... And consequently.... Now you do not wish to continue!
Anyhow.... I go in Moscow and I shall ask the God about the help for you!!!! I shall ask the God... To give you common sense!!!
And please respect me.... To not dare to write to me such the letter!!!
I always understood you and respected.... You allow yourselves... The insult for me is a lot of!!!
Can not be hidden from me in msn.... I do not go more to speak with you.... You cause me many{too many} pain!!!
Have own opinion please and do not resemble on Richerd.... because it is valid a monster!
Michael.... You constantly give me hope and to kill it.... To kill my love and my hope fortunately it is very fast.... Why you so it is severe to me?????????????????????????
What for to give hope and to select it???
I cannot write to you more.... I cannot a stop from tear.... You have ceased to understand me and it humiliates me!!!
To take care!
God bless you!
Love for ever?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????













11.03.05
I know one... If the man has respect and love for the woman.... It{he} does not release{let off}.... It{he} tries to keep it on all life..... You constantly refuse me...
I for you a thing or an empty place???
How you can constantly speak me about love and have constantly betraid me???
I do not search rich the man.... I search my soul mate and I knew... That it you.... Now I doubt..... You have refused me very quickly and it is very hurt for me!
I have my pride and I am tired to forgive you all insult!
Please remember.... I have asked you several days ago.... WHETHER I CAN SEND my QUESTIONNAIRE FOR RECEPTION the VISA IN NEW ZEALAND? And YOU HAVE TOLD to me YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I started action.... And you began to be hidden from me... Because have understood.... I am adjusted seriously!!!
So why now.... You write to me here any muck??? And of what you accuse me constantly?
I have not well enough explained to you.... That I go in Moscow and the best... To begin it payment now and then through one and a half... Two month.... We together!
Michael.... Why you have not stopped me before and have not told to me to wait??? It was so difficultly for you??? And now... When I have some days in Moscow and my director payment for me tickets and residing.... You do not make effort.... What the help for you and for me??? And you reproach me.... In that.... What I bad and I do not understand you??? I understand you perfectly.... It you have ceased to understand me!
Michael... I know one.... If you wished... That I would be with you.... You have borrowed{lent} this money both sent me and had no scandal and these accusation to me!!!
YOU understand now..... That I go too quickly and confidently and you are afraid....
The god to you the judge....
Please do not write to me more your insulting letters.... I am afraid to have my illness so quickly... The ambassador treatment.... Have respect!!!
Natalia







On msn messenger 11.21.05

You scoff over me??? You constantly do{make} it... Because know... That I have no money and you like to humiliate me!!! Borrow{Lend} and send me money for it week!!!





And these are a collection of some very lovely things that Natalia had said to me.

I shall not leave you my lovely... I promise you it... I always
shall be with you... A beam of the sun... A rainbow... Any flower
in a garden... I shall be a wind... Which caresss you and I shall
be a rain and you will hear my voice and my love will be eternal
for you!!! I promise it!!!
I love you very gently and always there will be your soul mate!
To take care!!!

Know my lovely and I am afraid to lose you as also I do not wish
to divide(share) you with whom that still.... And I wish to be
with you in the real world....

I want to tell to you... I love you very much!!! And if has
called me today for a meeting to China... That I would go at once
not being late and for one minute!!! I really dream to meet
you!!! I want to see you and to feel your embrace and a kiss!!!
I miss you very much and you know it and feel it!!!You always in
my ideas and in my heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love... Love... Love
Good night to you and sweet dreams!!! My love always with you!!!
To take care!!!My favourite boy!!!Forever your
Natalia

What with you to be fast for ever!!!For ever your Natalia.

All my ideas only about you...

I very much love you!!! My unique....

You it is constant in my ideas and in my heart!!!

I love you very much and I wait our conversation with impatience
now!!!I shall search for you later... Have fine day my love!!!
Your love for ever!
Natalia

Where you my friend?I miss you very much!!!I do not see you on
msn and I do not receive the letter from you....I worry about you
very much!!!Quiet to you night and sweet dreams!Love for ever!
Natalia
I miss you very much and you is constant in my opinion....

I love you very much!!!
My lovely.... I know that you sleep still... But I so am happy...
To know... That you are at me!!!I love you very much and about
each new day my love grows more and more and more!!! All my
familiar see my happiness and my desire to live now!!! And you
gave all this to me!!! I very much want to do{make} you the
happiest the man... You deserve it very much!!!Have good
dream and I shall come to you!!!!I shall search for you later or
at 15-30 my time!!! Good luck to you in all!!!Take care!!! God
bless you my love!!!
Love for ever.Natalia

The man about which it is possible to dream!!! Very wise and
fair, has the big humour, love and compassion to close people!!!
Very strong and the big person, Has set talent and gift from the
God!!! I am proud to have such friend in my life!!!

You the best the man for me!!! I shall always love you and always
to give you my love!!! I am not afraid to speak now it and I
speak it for the God as!! I shall belong only to you for ever!!!
You know... I thought of us much.... I was afraid... But now I
absolutely know... That I love you and I cannot live without
you.........

I LOVE YOU MY MIKE!!!

My lovely... Trust the god and all this will be resolved....

You dreamed me today at night.... And when I have woken up...
That I cried and still remembered your embraces

I need you with me all the time! (})

At us to turn out beautiful children...;)

Sincerely??? If it is fair... That I wish one little girl from
you... I wish... That she(it) would be the blonde about green eyes

So at us the kid and beautiful will turn out very clever

If we shall well and are happy together... That the God will give
us it do not doubt!!! All my dreams are always executed!!! The
god knows... That I sincerely wish it and allows me!!!

i love you my bad boy!!! YOU LOVE ME?;)

When I knit it... That I constantly think of you

I want to meet you... What to strangle at a meeting!!!

I am grateful to you for your help and your understanding of me!

Respect and understanding... Here that love... Which between
us....

I am very glad... That we understand each other.... And I we
shall be very happy together... If we trust the GOD!!! The god
takes all care of us and gives us the big happiness!!!

I LOVE YOU MY KIWI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I go with you on any planet and in any country













Letter 2

Natalia Ivanovna Maznitsyna. Ust Kamenogorsk Kazakhstan. Street address Obraszovaja 8-19. Email: i_natalia@list.ru and also natali_iv_69@hotmail.com Phone Number…. land. 0073232 425447 Cell: 0073332 2941386 Occupation: Landscaper. Born 5.3.69 . Passport Number. N4387276 issued Jan 7th 2005 till Jan 6th 2015 I am a single, divorced man of 64 with 4 children, and I should know better. My name is Michael Hollands I live in Auckland New Zealand. After separating from my partner in 2003, I started using the internet to look for a partner. I looked a lot at Russian women, because they seem to be just that extra dimension more beautiful, and kept that beauty for much later in life. They also seem to be more determined to be a very good wife and mother… and offer to love their man for all time. They also profess to hold very strong Christian beliefs, and honesty and their faithfulness seem to be paramount. I was also aware that there were 13 million more women than men in Russia, and I read many stories in profiles suggesting that Russian men did not make good husbands for several reasons. I quickly became aware of the activities of scammers, and also of the existence of the “Black List”. I corresponded with many scammers, and was intrigued to see their ‘modus operandi’, and their occasional ‘trip ups’. I also found another guy in the UK who had corresponded with the same women that I had communicated with. It was amusing to compare the letters from these women, especially when the letters to each of us was identical but with changed names. Sometimes these women would overlook to change a name in the body text, and it was amusing to find a ‘Dave’, for example, in my letters addressed to me as ‘Michael’ Then I discovered Natalia in Kazakhstan. This lady has turned out to be so masterful that with all my wisdom, and experience at writing to Russian women, I was still taken in. We have corresponded for about 20 months… much of that time on msn messenger, where she led me on to this form of communication, and also the use of a webcam. Therefore we did seem to overcome the distance, and non physical nature of the internet, and many times we spent hours together on the msn site. I was completely captivated by her, and it seemed that she was completely in love with me. We even argued! The arguments were sometimes quite passionate, and one argument lasted for five and a half hours! Much of that was without webcam, and when Natalia finally came on camera to show me her face, her eyes were swollen, tears were running down her face, and her mouth was open wide in a scream of anguish. I am aware that Ust Kamenogorsk is an unhealthy place to live, and that there is a Uranium factory within the city. Natalia had to leap up and close the windows once, when I was talking to her, following a radio warning not to go outside. Natalia, started asking me for money. Her passport was allegedly taken from her for not paying her internet bills at the cyber café. She told me she needed her passport to get a new job, because her boss was sexually harassing her. Then her son was involved in a school chemistry lesson accident, and he had to go to hospital. Natalia told me that 14 children had died. He survived, but broke his arm in hospital. Natalia asked me to pay to help her with living expenses. Then she asked me to buy her a cell phone and a computer for her new job. I offered to send her a free cell phone from by my son who worked in the industry at the time. She flew into a rage and told me that she had paid $100 to hold the new phone for her for one day and it was not recoverable. So I paid. Then her daughter caught Meningitis, and ‘nearly died’. We seemed to have a very caring relationship outside these demands for money, which always had to be sent “Western Union” within 24 hours. I met her kids online, and her friends and her mother. I became very involved, and I believed that I was very much part of her life… and that she was a part of mine. Then once I was not able to send the money within 24 hours, and things dissolved into a ‘shouting’ match… online. I was made to feel very bad about it…and finally she stopped all communication with me, being ‘deeply offended’ at my ‘treatment' of her. She told me that another Michael, from the USA had proposed to her, and that she was going to marry him 3 months later. We ‘separated’ for a period of about 3 months, and then she came back to me as ‘a friend’. I was sent pictures of her with ‘Michael’ from the USA. Then I learned that she did not marry him, and after a month, he had returned to the USA. So for a while we communicated as friends. Then she told me that she had just learned that she had cancer of the stomach, and that it was ‘fatal’. Of course I was devastated, and started to send more money for treatment. I sent her medicine as well which she showed me ‘on cam’ when she received it. She seemed to get better, and we “fell in love” again. It was my positive support, and love, (and money) that kept her alive, she said. She had 2 spells in hospital in Almati, and her friends would contact me and plead with me to send her money urgently. I also ended up sending money to her friend at the same time, as she had had difficulty keeping up the support to Natalia and visiting Natalia in Almati. This is already a long story, but it has served a purpose if this story has exposed a VERY competent liar, and a VERY gullible fool. But of course I loved her desperately, and whatever the cost, I wanted to continue to keep in contact. It was finally when I added up the lies that I had caught her out on, and simple mistakes that she had made, that I saw what was happening clearly. Of course I had often suspected, but never wanted to believe it!. There was for example that she was smoking when she was online about six months ago, although admitting that her doctor had told her she couldn’t smoke. She told me that she had just started smoking, but I asked her friend, and her friend told me that she had been smoking since she was in her early twenties, she is now 36. It was an elementary slip up, and she told me she was giving up shortly. Of course, she only needed to concoct an argument between us, and out would come the cigarettes again. I have to say that this lady is a genius with the use of the power of GUILT. And I suspect that the very best scammers use guilt to the level of an art form as Natalia does. Natalia, will also stoop to hold her children up as bearing the suffering, whenever things did not go the way Natalia wanted it. This was her way as well - of using guilt to get her way. I think this form of coersion is despicable. And she is always using God as a judge of all other's, except her own behaviour I have spoken to Natalia today, and she wants me to send more money urgently. She has no idea at all that I am doing this, and this is good, because she is totally unsuspecting, and would never believe that I could report her. Therefore it is vital that Natalia is caught and put out of action because this sort of treatment of another human being is totally unjustified by any standards, and she is only putting her own people, and her country, to shame. To date I have sent US $5,260, which is NZ $8,635.34 New Zealand dollars, so I guess... by reading others experiences here, I am one of the bigger victims, and I feel particularly stupid about it. I am not wealthy, in fact I believe that I have a lot less money than Natalia herself has. In all pictures I have seen of her apartment, her furniture, equipment and the clothes that she wears, everything looks very expensive indeed. She owns her apartment, and also a "holiday residence", and has enough property to consider setting up an Ostridge farm. I suspect that much of her money was gained by scamming men. Michael Hollands. 21st November 2005 P.O.box 51818, Pakuranga, Auckland, New Zealand. silverstore@ihug.co.nz Code name 003.5 Payments made to Natalia. 05.11.04 NZ$197.90 US$120 W1183040 67285 06.30.04 NZ$544.30 US$300 W1183010 29522 02.28.05 NZ$103.26 US$50 W1157020 13461 03.14.05 NZ$396.30 US$250 W1157050 21279 03.31.05 NZ$490.86 US$300 S1157000 30658 03.31.05 NZ$245.43 US$150 S1157050 30785 04.11.05 NZ$336.07 US$200 S1303000 32456 04.22.05 NZ$479.21 US$300 W8119010 28719 04.26.05 NZ$197.93 US$120 W1157020 44148 05.10.05 NZ$411.69 US$250 S8119000 18792 05.17.05 NZ$339.86 US$200 W1157050 56309 06.14.05 NZ$407.34 US$250 W1157010 1532 06.22.05 NZ$936.34 US$600 W1157050 5857 07.12.05 NZ$985.25 US$600 W1183010 65687 07.22.05 NZ$417.81 US$250 W1183050 2618 09.16.05 NZ$950.14 US$600 W1183050 42310 09.28.05 NZ$420.79 US$250 W1073050 53584 10.07.05 NZ$571.13 US$350 S1189000 19398 10.25.05 NZ$203.73 US$120 W8119010 24594 _________ _______ NZ$8,635.34 US$5,260.00 I have all these Western Union documents. Messages from Natalia. 05.01.05 My lovely friend!!! I miss you very much!!! If you only knew... As I do not have not enough you now!!! I constantly ask the god about the help for you and all your family!!! You the fine person and the best friend... Which to me was sent by the GOD!!! My hope to see you soon gives me many forces and confidence in a victory!!! Please to take care!!! Thanks for your big care of me.... It so is pleasant for me and I cannot think of you without tear.... You always in my ideas and always in my heart!!! p.s. (I am glad... That you read the Kama Sutra) and I am very glad... That you have not opened there that that new to yourselves.... hehehe.... I love you very much!!!! With the big hope and the best wishes for you my best in this world the person!!!!!! Natalia 08.25.05 Good morning my lovely friend!!! I do not want to awake you and I go to sleep as... I shall speak свами in the morning.... I thought of you all the day long.... Knitted a jumper and all my ideas were with you.... I miss you very much my angel!!! Have good to put and much positive emotion!!! It is a lot of sun and the blue sky above your head!!! Be the good boy and not strongly be fond of lady... To take care.... I shall soon with you!!! Your true friend! Love!!! Natalia 06.05.05 My lovely Michael!!! I love you very gently and I am afraid to damage(injure) it.... And our last conversation is not given me with good emotion... We speak about much and there is nothing... I am really very tired from the Internet and my illness have exhausted me strongly! I want to be happy with you always.... We much have gone through here still more many difficulties.... Understand me.... It is very difficult for me.... I am very much upset now from for your illness... Please to take care and do not sit at a computer!!! To protect your eyes!!! I shall wait all the day long.... What to speak with you!!! I have hope... That soon we at last shall together my lovely friend!!! Have good day and please take care rest!!! Your love! Natalia 06.10.05 My lovely Michael!!! I am very glad to read your letters today... The belief and love there is so much!!! My lovely... All problems will pass by us and we necessarily meet soon!!! I constantly think of you and I dream about our future life really much... Thanks about your care is relative my treatment!!! It is very touching for me.... I shall try to not bring you and my health will be better soon... I know it... I am sure... That the God will not allow me to leave(abandon) you during this life.... We should be together for ever!!! It is very a pity... That you now not in msn.... I very much wanted to speak with you... We speak later today at night... Now I should go in hospital and take some consultation... About the big love to you! Natalia 06.12.05 My lovely friend!!! Thanks for your letters and so much good words to me!!! I love you very much and very much I miss you here!!! My health is very bad these days and I move on an apartment and other time in bed not much... Excuse me... But I cannot be today with you... Very big weariness and absolutely is not present forces... I shall try to come back faster to you... Have good day and be the good boy!!! I love you all heart and is constant you in my ideas!!! I constantly ask the God about the help to you!!! We should be strong!!! Thanks for your fine photo.... I like to see it!!! The big love and tenderness to you!!! Natalia 06.13.05 My lovely friend!!! Thanks for your letter!!! I so like to read your letter in the morning!!! Yes my lovely we so far apart.... But we children the God and it(he) does(makes) care of us and if it is the plan the God... To be to us together... That we necessarily shall together and we do not leave once more!!! I understand you very much and I feel you very well!!! I understand... That you very much experience for me and you really love me and allow me the big hope for my life!!! I am very happy to have you my lovely friend!!! I always thank the God for it!!! I shall always love you my lovely and my unique!!! You very much dier the friend for me!!! I not so well today and several minutes ago visited me Irina... She(it) is very happy from her(it) kiwi as... But I saw excitement in its(her) eyes... Because before them as many problems for a meeting.... I understand all... And I cannot the help for it(her) as that... It is a life and she(it) and Andrev their love and the God as should trust... Now I want to speak not much with you... If you at home now... If is not present... That I shall be here later today!!! The big love to you my lovely!!! Your Natalia 06.15.05 My lovely friend!!! I miss you very much!!! I read your letter some times!!! The love and care there is so much.... You not можите to imagine... As these words the help for me now.... I want to live... I want to be happy with you!!!!!!!!! My lovely... My loved kiwi!!! I do not want to disturb your dream now... You had difficult day and I go to sleep as... We speak with you in the morning!!!! I ask the God now... What you were well always and I ask the God about happiness for us and our eternal love!!!!!!!!!!!! Always your small Natalia!!! Which has very big love in its heart!!!! Many times I kiss you.... It is interesting to see you sleepy in a bed.... hehehehe 07.01.05 My lovely friend I need to continue urgently treatment and for that that I could buy a medicine from Novosibirsk to me are necessary money now.... It always painfully to ask you about about the help and I very much suffer it... But I do not have other output(exit) now... My sister can send me 400 dollars now... Because she does not work and is on physical inability as and every month she sends me of money for treatment... But it to me does not suffice me 600 dollars more and then I can buy a medicine quickly are necessary and to continue treatment. My lovely angel you can the help for me now? The big love and hope!!! Natalia 10.05.05 My love! I am very glad to know, that you have got home!!! I love you very much and you always in my heart and everywhere... Where I go I constantly I think of you my angel!!!!!!!!!!!!! Michael, I still very weak... And my doctor has informed me.... That now I shall demand treatment in 6-8 months!!! I should receive only vitamins now and observe a diet. I saw today my analysis and it really better than before!!! I am very glad to this and you my angel give me the big help and I feel your care and love constantly! I have your hair with me always... And I like to touch your hair... It is given me with the big communication{connection} with you!!!! I am very happy today! Thank for money! Christina has already received it and has sent me on my account in Almaty.... I shall receive it soon. Michael, excuse, I do not have not enough this money and I need 350 dollars more, I understand my lovely, that it is very difficult to receive this money for me... But I in difficult position now... I send you a copy of the letter from your friend Tobias once again and I hope you will receive it now... I should will come back in hospital now my lovely.... My doctor demands me for consultation. I love you very much!!!! To take care! God bless you!!!!!!! Love for ever!!! Natalia 10.07.05 My love!!! I so am glad to receive your letters... It is given really to me with many energy and I feel you beside!!! I can have my happiness only with you and it on always!!!!!!!!!!! I miss you very much and constantly I think of you and I speak with you... Looking on your photo and all workers hospital send the regards to you and the best wishes! My doctor has told to me... That the love is of great importance for me and it is the help for me from you and from the God and I know it!!!!!!!!!! My unique Michael!!! I love you very much!!!!!!!! My treatment comes to an end tomorrow.... And if you could send me money tomorrow... That I shall better leave hospital... What to not pay superfluous money... Please try to send me it tomorrow... Otherwise... I should payment still superfluous 80 dollars for the days off.. I can remain before arrival Alesya at its friend Elena and wait a meeting with Richard... What to transfer a parcel{sending} for you my love and then I go home at once... Very much I miss without children and mum.... I love you very much!!!!!!!! You know it??? My angel..... I dream about a meeting with you soon.... To take care! God bless you! Love for ever!!!!!!!!! Your Natalia 10.23.05 Thank for your care!!! You can send me 500 dollars on the ticket to Dubai??? I shall be very grateful to you for your help!!! 11.03.05 Michael.... I do not understand you... Why you malicious??? Because I wish to be with you??? Because I examine{consider} you seriously... Therefore you malicious??? I understand... You have no money.... What for you promised me this travel to New Zealand??? For what I spent many money.... What to call in Moscow??? I only wished to be faster with you and I was very happy all these days.... Because I knew... That absolutely soon I shall with you.... And you have very much changed to me and it happened after your meeting with Richerd.... I has written to it{him} the letter today and his{its} intrigue for his{its} life asked to leave all!!! Probably it{he} has overlooked.... How laughed at you??? And now it{he} searches for your understanding??? It is nonsense..... And you are similar Richerd now my friend..... You offend me and humiliate me and I cannot understand.... That I have made not correctly..... That that I dream to be with you in real life? You probably do not understand all benefit my trip to Moscow??? I understand your reaction to all.... It is your cowardice.... You are not ready to change in your life and I once again ask you.... To remain fair with me! I am very grateful to you for your help about my illness and now you kill me.... Your behaviour is awful to me..... You cannot understand my love.... How strongly you gave me a trauma now?????????????? You the coward...... And consequently.... Now you do not wish to continue! Anyhow.... I go in Moscow and I shall ask the God about the help for you!!!! I shall ask the God... To give you common sense!!! And please respect me.... To not dare to write to me such the letter!!! I always understood you and respected.... You allow yourselves... The insult for me is a lot of!!! Can not be hidden from me in msn.... I do not go more to speak with you.... You cause me many{too many} pain!!! Have own opinion please and do not resemble on Richerd.... because it is valid a monster! Michael.... You constantly give me hope and to kill it.... To kill my love and my hope fortunately it is very fast.... Why you so it is severe to me????????????????????????? What for to give hope and to select it??? I cannot write to you more.... I cannot a stop from tear.... You have ceased to understand me and it humiliates me!!! To take care! God bless you! Love for ever????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 11.03.05 I know one... If the man has respect and love for the woman.... It{he} does not release{let off}.... It{he} tries to keep it on all life..... You constantly refuse me... I for you a thing or an empty place??? How you can constantly speak me about love and have constantly betraid me??? I do not search rich the man.... I search my soul mate and I knew... That it you.... Now I doubt..... You have refused me very quickly and it is very hurt for me! I have my pride and I am tired to forgive you all insult! Please remember.... I have asked you several days ago.... WHETHER I CAN SEND my QUESTIONNAIRE FOR RECEPTION the VISA IN NEW ZEALAND? And YOU HAVE TOLD to me YES!!!!!!!!!!!! I started action.... And you began to be hidden from me... Because have understood.... I am adjusted seriously!!! So why now.... You write to me here any muck??? And of what you accuse me constantly? I have not well enough explained to you.... That I go in Moscow and the best... To begin it payment now and then through one and a half... Two month.... We together! Michael.... Why you have not stopped me before and have not told to me to wait??? It was so difficultly for you??? And now... When I have some days in Moscow and my director payment for me tickets and residing.... You do not make effort.... What the help for you and for me??? And you reproach me.... In that.... What I bad and I do not understand you??? I understand you perfectly.... It you have ceased to understand me! Michael... I know one.... If you wished... That I would be with you.... You have borrowed{lent} this money both sent me and had no scandal and these accusation to me!!! YOU understand now..... That I go too quickly and confidently and you are afraid.... The god to you the judge.... Please do not write to me more your insulting letters.... I am afraid to have my illness so quickly... The ambassador treatment.... Have respect!!! Natalia On msn messenger 11.21.05 You scoff over me??? You constantly do{make} it... Because know... That I have no money and you like to humiliate me!!! Borrow{Lend} and send me money for it week!!! And these are a collection of some very lovely things that Natalia had said to me. I shall not leave you my lovely... I promise you it... I always shall be with you... A beam of the sun... A rainbow... Any flower in a garden... I shall be a wind... Which caresss you and I shall be a rain and you will hear my voice and my love will be eternal for you!!! I promise it!!! I love you very gently and always there will be your soul mate! To take care!!! Know my lovely and I am afraid to lose you as also I do not wish to divide(share) you with whom that still.... And I wish to be with you in the real world.... I want to tell to you... I love you very much!!! And if has called me today for a meeting to China... That I would go at once not being late and for one minute!!! I really dream to meet you!!! I want to see you and to feel your embrace and a kiss!!! I miss you very much and you know it and feel it!!!You always in my ideas and in my heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love... Love... Love Good night to you and sweet dreams!!! My love always with you!!! To take care!!!My favourite boy!!!Forever your Natalia What with you to be fast for ever!!!For ever your Natalia. All my ideas only about you... I very much love you!!! My unique.... You it is constant in my ideas and in my heart!!! I love you very much and I wait our conversation with impatience now!!!I shall search for you later... Have fine day my love!!! Your love for ever! Natalia Where you my friend?I miss you very much!!!I do not see you on msn and I do not receive the letter from you....I worry about you very much!!!Quiet to you night and sweet dreams!Love for ever! Natalia I miss you very much and you is constant in my opinion.... I love you very much!!! My lovely.... I know that you sleep still... But I so am happy... To know... That you are at me!!!I love you very much and about each new day my love grows more and more and more!!! All my familiar see my happiness and my desire to live now!!! And you gave all this to me!!! I very much want to do{make} you the happiest the man... You deserve it very much!!!Have good dream and I shall come to you!!!!I shall search for you later or at 15-30 my time!!! Good luck to you in all!!!Take care!!! God bless you my love!!! Love for ever.Natalia The man about which it is possible to dream!!! Very wise and fair, has the big humour, love and compassion to close people!!! Very strong and the big person, Has set talent and gift from the God!!! I am proud to have such friend in my life!!! You the best the man for me!!! I shall always love you and always to give you my love!!! I am not afraid to speak now it and I speak it for the God as!! I shall belong only to you for ever!!! You know... I thought of us much.... I was afraid... But now I absolutely know... That I love you and I cannot live without you......... I LOVE YOU MY MIKE!!! My lovely... Trust the god and all this will be resolved.... You dreamed me today at night.... And when I have woken up... That I cried and still remembered your embraces I need you with me all the time! (}) At us to turn out beautiful children...;) Sincerely??? If it is fair... That I wish one little girl from you... I wish... That she(it) would be the blonde about green eyes So at us the kid and beautiful will turn out very clever If we shall well and are happy together... That the God will give us it do not doubt!!! All my dreams are always executed!!! The god knows... That I sincerely wish it and allows me!!! i love you my bad boy!!! YOU LOVE ME?;) When I knit it... That I constantly think of you I want to meet you... What to strangle at a meeting!!! I am grateful to you for your help and your understanding of me! Respect and understanding... Here that love... Which between us.... I am very glad... That we understand each other.... And I we shall be very happy together... If we trust the GOD!!! The god takes all care of us and gives us the big happiness!!! I LOVE YOU MY KIWI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I go with you on any planet and in any country